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	<title>Comments on: Police: Helicopters, Sirens in CdM Are Not Emergency</title>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.coronadelmartoday.com/9837/home/police-helicopters-sirens-in-cdm-are-not-emergency/comment-page-1/#comment-2923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Persian celebration while of great significance to those attending, like many events of recent years seemed to get a bit out of hand this year, though I didn&#039;t see anything resembling a riot.

Having thousands of people show up unannounced in a residential neighborhood late at night, with the resulting traffic jam, lack of parking for residents coming home from work, loud music coming from a number of cars arriving and leaving, occasional (friendly) yelling between groups returning to their cars in the dark after 10 pm, the need for a &quot;massive&quot; police response is just one more example of why the fire rings need to go, or be substantially reduced.

Events of this size need to fall under the permitting process, just like the &quot;Taste of Newport&quot; the &quot;Concourse&quot; or other event drawing large numbers of people.  Residents need to be forewarned.

While this event apparently has no central planning, the owners of the web site upon which the directions to the party were posted should be considered the ones responsible.

Also, I&#039;d like to know how much this Persian party cost the City.

And finally - kudos to the NBPD for what I observed was a calm and measured response.  They slowly but persistently herded the crowd off the beach and had Big Corona pretty much cleared by 10:15 pm.

This event would be much better served if it was held near the Huntington Beach pier or the Newport Pier which are commercial areas designed to hold large numbers of people and where residents are not unduly displaced or disrupted late at night by the crowds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Persian celebration while of great significance to those attending, like many events of recent years seemed to get a bit out of hand this year, though I didn&#8217;t see anything resembling a riot.</p>
<p>Having thousands of people show up unannounced in a residential neighborhood late at night, with the resulting traffic jam, lack of parking for residents coming home from work, loud music coming from a number of cars arriving and leaving, occasional (friendly) yelling between groups returning to their cars in the dark after 10 pm, the need for a &#8220;massive&#8221; police response is just one more example of why the fire rings need to go, or be substantially reduced.</p>
<p>Events of this size need to fall under the permitting process, just like the &#8220;Taste of Newport&#8221; the &#8220;Concourse&#8221; or other event drawing large numbers of people.  Residents need to be forewarned.</p>
<p>While this event apparently has no central planning, the owners of the web site upon which the directions to the party were posted should be considered the ones responsible.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d like to know how much this Persian party cost the City.</p>
<p>And finally &#8211; kudos to the NBPD for what I observed was a calm and measured response.  They slowly but persistently herded the crowd off the beach and had Big Corona pretty much cleared by 10:15 pm.</p>
<p>This event would be much better served if it was held near the Huntington Beach pier or the Newport Pier which are commercial areas designed to hold large numbers of people and where residents are not unduly displaced or disrupted late at night by the crowds.</p>
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		<title>By: billcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>billcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appraiser Vet, I think you are over reacting to one police fly over. To think the value of my house went down $100,000 is ridiculous !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appraiser Vet, I think you are over reacting to one police fly over. To think the value of my house went down $100,000 is ridiculous !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Corona Swimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Corona Swimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The event of the next evening, St. Patrick&#039;s, shows that Big Corona needs police response and the NBPD did efficiently respond.  Different than the questionable deployment on the previous night for the Persion New Year, the NBPD acted quickly and got out of there.  The response was police cars, motor officer, undercover, and even help from the Newport Beach Lifeguard Jeep.  Despite not being beach season, the NB Lifeguard and Fire Department reacted safely to the second day of hot March temperatures.  The Lifeguard Jeep was at the water line until the 7pm sunset.  The challenge for lifeguards is Big Corona becoming more than beach usage.  That&#039;s difficult when lifeguarding means watching the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The event of the next evening, St. Patrick&#8217;s, shows that Big Corona needs police response and the NBPD did efficiently respond.  Different than the questionable deployment on the previous night for the Persion New Year, the NBPD acted quickly and got out of there.  The response was police cars, motor officer, undercover, and even help from the Newport Beach Lifeguard Jeep.  Despite not being beach season, the NB Lifeguard and Fire Department reacted safely to the second day of hot March temperatures.  The Lifeguard Jeep was at the water line until the 7pm sunset.  The challenge for lifeguards is Big Corona becoming more than beach usage.  That&#8217;s difficult when lifeguarding means watching the water.</p>
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		<title>By: Appraiser Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Appraiser Vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An old maxim in real estate is take a 10% discount in the post-appraisal valuation for every police car in the neighborhood.  Police helicopters further increase the discount factor.  Corona del Mar just got significantly devalued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An old maxim in real estate is take a 10% discount in the post-appraisal valuation for every police car in the neighborhood.  Police helicopters further increase the discount factor.  Corona del Mar just got significantly devalued.</p>
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		<title>By: billcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>billcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that  those three motor officers discussing &quot;chicks&quot; was police jargon for &quot;Where should we go for chicken dinner?&quot;. Place smiley emodicom here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that  those three motor officers discussing &#8220;chicks&#8221; was police jargon for &#8220;Where should we go for chicken dinner?&#8221;. Place smiley emodicom here.</p>
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		<title>By: Lookout Visitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lookout Visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Persian New Year has been a regular event at Big Corona, and parking has usually been free on a Tuesday night in March.  Was the fray at the park entrance about Newport Beach&#039;s pursuit of parking fees from inland visitors to the state park?  And did the NBPD overreact to the situation?  I overheard three motor officers mention &quot;chicks&quot; at the hilltop entrance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Persian New Year has been a regular event at Big Corona, and parking has usually been free on a Tuesday night in March.  Was the fray at the park entrance about Newport Beach&#8217;s pursuit of parking fees from inland visitors to the state park?  And did the NBPD overreact to the situation?  I overheard three motor officers mention &#8220;chicks&#8221; at the hilltop entrance.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously! it was craziness!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously! it was craziness!!</p>
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		<title>By: billcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>billcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering what the reason was for it to take ten minutes to get thru CDM on the Coast Hwy last night at about eight pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering what the reason was for it to take ten minutes to get thru CDM on the Coast Hwy last night at about eight pm.</p>
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