City Responds to Coastal Commission on Fire Rings

posted: August 21st, 2012 10:42 am | 9Comments

Newport Beach officials submitted a 139-page packet to the California Coastal Commission earlier this month, responding to questions that Coastal Commission staff had posed about beach fire rings.

The letter describes the history of beach fire rings in the city, reasons why no new air quality studies were conducted, difficulties in enforcement fire ring rules and how removal of the rings would create about 43,000 square feet of unobstructed open sand, along with other information that Coastal Commission staff requested.

Newport Beach submitted its original application in May to remove the city’s 60 beach fire rings, including 27 at Big Corona State Beach. The Coastal Commission staff, however, said the application was incomplete and sent a letter on June 11 asking for additional information; read our story here.

The city’s resubmission included a five-page response letter, said Mary Locey, a city spokeswoman, in an email.

The letter identifies eight areas where Coastal Commission staff needed more information or elaboration, including how many people use the rings, who they are, and restrictions on what materials are burned. The city’s letter states that the rings are used by Newport Beach residents and visitors and are typically used most between Memorial Day and Labor Day on a first-come, first-served basis.

Coastal Commission staff asked whether the city conducted an air quality study supporting the removal of rings, or whether air samples had been taken.

“The City explored the possibility of conducting an air quality study and monitoring program, but the determination was made that it was not feasible,” the city’s response said. “Air quality consultants that were contacted indicated that a scientific study would not provide a definitive answer with respect to the source of the wood burning smoke as the same particulate matters are the same, be in private or public….”

Wind direction, fog, type of wood burned, time of day and time of year all would be variables in a monitoring program as well, the letter said.

The packet included several studies related to the dangers wood smoke.

The Coastal Commission staff had asked for “all documentation related to the city’s examination and study of alternatives to removal of the fire rings…” including whether the city considered limits on the hours or days that rings could be used, relocation or removal of some of the rings or limiting materials burned, perhaps installing gas lines.

“Early in the process, staff identified a spectrum of alternatives to be considered by the Parks Commission,” the city response states. “However, it was quickly evident that none of these alternatives met the objective to fully eliminate the hazards of the fire rings.”

Limits, the city letter states, would be “difficult to enforce.” Dispersing the rings would “reduce the area of open sand area which would impact the public’s use and enjoyment of this area,” the letter states. And removing the rings seasonally would not eliminate the smoke hazard completely and also would require heavy equipment on the beach twice each year.

The Coastal Commission had asked whether the city had the authority to remove the Big Corona rings, as the beach is a state beach managed by the city. The city responded that it had an operating agreement in place until August 2029, and that new construction, alteration and maintenance work can be done without prior approval from State Parks. The city’s letter also said that staff informed State Park staff about the ring removal request, and there was no indication that the city needed their approval. The city’s letter also states that no state or local agency regulation “explicitly requires the removal of the rings or restrict their use.” But the South Coast Air Quality Management District “has rules in place that prohibit wood burning devices in new developments,” the letter states.

Coastal Commission staff asked about the history of the rings, and the city’s letter said that staff researched photographs and other historical data, as well as held discussions with longtime residents. The rings, according to the letter, were installed in the late 1940s and early 1950s in about the same places where they remain today.

Removal of the rings would open up about 43,691 square feet of sand, the city’s letter said, responding to a Coastal Commission question about what would be available for beachgoers if the rings are removed.

The fire rings, according to the city, take up a lot of prime beach area but are mostly unused during the daytime.

If the rings were removed, the city letter states, the area could offer volleyball courts, a children’s area with playground equipment or open sand — all close to a nearby parking area. Volleyball courts and open sand are highly in demand, the city letter states.

“Photographs depicting the subject areas during peak summer days, demonstrate the location of the fire rings are underutilized during periods the rest of the beach is heavily impacted by beachgoers.” The extra space, the letter said, “is in high demand.”

The City’s letter also acknowledges “the expansive notification that would be required” to let the general public know about the fire ring removal application.

In a unanimous vote in March, the Newport Beach City Council voted to remove the city’s beach fire rings, following a February vote by the city’s Parks, Beaches & Recreation Commission. Public testimony before both of those votes focused mostly on the health dangers of wood smoke; read our stories here and here.

The City Council discussed removing the rings in 2009, but budget issues facing the city caused the Council to table the matter. In September 2011, however, Corona del Mar’s Council representative and now mayor Nancy Gardner suggested that the parks commission study the issue again, partly because of a claim filed against Huntington Beach after a boy was burned at a fire ring there.

The Coastal Commission will hold a public hearing on the application request, staff as said.

9 Responses to “City Responds to Coastal Commission on Fire Rings”

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MAC

August 21st, 2012

LEAVE THE FIRE PITS ALONE! I GREW UP WITH THEM, ENJOYED THEM....LET OTHERS ENJOY THEM ALSO.........

Mike Miloserdoff

August 21st, 2012

I do not use the fire rings, but I think a lot of the general discontent that is being scapegoated with the firerings as they are can be explained by the general overpopulation of central Orange County and its accompanying sociological effects of encroachment and removal of one's personal space, whether it be a homeowner, businessowner, etc. The impurities that go into the surrounding air from burning wood have not changed over the years as far as I know, no new homes have been built right next to the 60 year old fire rings, there have been no new variables introduced into the equation that seem to justify a change in the status quo from the inception of the fire rings in the 1950's / 1960's. A few months ago, an article stated a homeowner saying people are now burning plastic; have you ever been able to stand next to a fire that is burning plastic for a period of time more then a minute or so ? I honestly don't think beach goers are now using plastic to fuel their fires. I am neither for nor against the removal of the fire rings, but I do think the root cause of the discontent should be explored before making uninformed decisions to keep or remove the fire rings.

jim

August 21st, 2012

I wish my city would stop wasting time and money on this application and put the funds to a better use!

Randy

August 21st, 2012

With some of the embellishments written to the CCC about beach use and square footage, this is off the cliff. I'm surprised nobody mentioned the fumes from close passing boats powering up to leave the harbor. People do throw crap in the fires besides clean wood, the point here is so clouded from the truth which is unmentionable these days. Big Corona has always been crowded in the summer and hot weekends, nothing new as the history points out. Im with Jim, quit waisting our time with this, let the folks enjoy the beaches as they have for the last 60 years.

Brent

August 21st, 2012

The small group of buddies that run this city don't have a clue what's good for this city just what's good for them and their friends. I agree with the majority to stop wasting any more of the city's time on this. I think it's time for a RECALL!

Mike Miloserdoff

August 21st, 2012

There is a parallel here with the recent issue of the John Wayne airport and arriving and departing planes flying over homes in the general vicinity. I do not use the John Wayne airport, but a few months ago, the Federal Aviation Administration had to entertain homeowners who wanted, once again, to rearrange flight paths so that the planes would not fly over their homes. The FAA politely told the homeowners we've been thru this before, we've already made flight path changes numerous times at John Wayne airport, the issue has been put to rest, no changes this time... We like convenience, as long as the by-products of the convenience (planes taking off overhead, public fire rings adjacent to living space, etc.) are well outside of our personal space. We like disposable styrofoam containers, as long as we do not live next to the landfill...

Mark D. Simon

August 22nd, 2012

You can thank Mayor Nancy Gardner for this effort to remove the fire rings and deny us their use and enjoyment as she likens it to driving a car with out a seat belt. Politicians taking away more of your rights! Welcome to the Corona del Mar Nanny, or should I say Nancy, State. Where fun, live music, dancing, and anything staying open late is strictly forbidden!

Jamie

August 22nd, 2012

No Mark, Nancy is the council representative from CDM as well as the Mayor. It was her JOB to bring the issue to the Council as requested by numerous concerned CDM residents. This isn't about the fire rings, it's about a community under siege and overrun by visitors into a neighborhood that is not able to manage or contain the crowds, crime, smoke, noise and trash, thereby damaging property values and the quality of life of residents with multi-million dollar investments here. I was going to write another long tirade on this tired worn out subject, but you know what - I'm tired and worn out. So you newcomers who want to turn CDM into an overcrowded, crime ridden, car jacking, smoke covered, late night dance hall, shell of a lovely community suffocating under the flight path of jets spewing cancerous byproducts, go right ahead. You win, but you'll lose in the end when you have destroyed paradise.

Patricia

August 25th, 2012

I have reactive airway disease. I am not alone. Add in the huge numbers of people with asthma and COPD. The fire pits and the wood burning fireplaces make it very difficult to breathe, especially when the air is still. I can't help but wonder how people can justify their desire to light fires when their neighbors are suffering so. Imagine the pain in the chest with every breath, the wheezing because of a closed airway. No inhalers seem to help. I turn white, get huge dark circles under my eyes, my eyes burn, and my nervous system is attacked, making my legs weak and shaky. What would it be like if I were allergic, or if I had asthma. This is only RAD! And there's nowhere to go to get a breath of air. Sleeping is difficult if it's possible at all. Is it worth it to keep burning wood and whatever else people throw into those pits when your neighbors are suffocating? How can people be so callous? Please be kind and find something to do besides burn things. I know we live in a world of me, me, me. Here is an easy opportunity to make a big difference in the lives of those with health problems. My RAD is likely do to smoke I was subjected to as a child. What about the children?


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